The 48 questions that remained unanswered

Source: Correio da Manhã, 03.08.2008, paper edition. Translation by Astro

Investigation – What the PJ inspectors wanted to know

When she became an arguida, Kate stopped talking to the inspectors

September 7, 2007. Kate McCann entered the Polícia Judiciária in Portimão in the morning and the questioning extended into the evening. She was heard as a witness, but the tension in the air was evident. For the first time, people were concentrated at the PJ building’s door and murmured words of mistrust regarding the couple.

On that day, CM had reported that the dogs had detected cadaver odour on Maddie’s mother’s clothes. A piece of evidence that the authorities intended to use as a trump, during a questioning that only changed course on the next day, after the PJ failed to see their doubts clarified.

Kate began by replying all the questions, but when she was made an arguida, she stopped talking. She went silent, in the company of her lawyer, and accepted all the insinuations in a provocative manner. Less than 48 hours later, Kate and Gerry travel to England with the twins, leaving the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter, who meanwhile had become four, behind.

They later guaranteed that they would return if necessary – which they never did, although they were never formally requested to return – and they are no longer arguidos for the suspected involvement in concealing the child’s body. Today, CM reveals the 48 questions that Kate did not want to answer during the interrogation and which reflect the investigators’ doubts. More than a year after Maddie disappeared, many of these questions remain unanswered.

Jeers for the McCann couple

The day that Kate and Gerry went to the PJ’s offices in Portimão marked a turnaround in the relationship between the local people and the couple: the curious bystanders that spent the day on the street jeered at Maddie’s mother and father, mainly criticizing the “absence of visible suffering” from Kate. The foreign press also attended in great numbers.

The Judiciária’s 48 questions that Kate did not answer

  1. On the 3rd of May 2007, at around 10 p.m., when you entered the apartment, what did you see, what did you do, where did you search, what did you handle?
  2. Did you search in the couple’s bedroom’s closet? (said she would not reply)
  3. (Two photographs of her bedroom’s closet are exhibited) Can you describe its contents?
  4. Why are the curtains in front of the side window, behind the sofa (photograph is exhibited) ruffled? Did someone pass behind that sofa?
  5. How long did the search that you made in the apartment after detecting the disappearance of your daughter Madeleine take?
  6. Why did you say straight away that Madeleine had been abducted?
  7. Presuming that Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins alone at home while you went to the Tapas to raise the alarm? Even because the supposed abductor could still be inside the apartment.
  8. Why didn’t you ask the twins at that moment what had happened to their sister, or why didn’t you ask them at a later point in time?
  9. When you raised the alarm at the Tapas, what exactly did you say and what were the words?
  10. What happened after you raised the alarm at the Tapas?
  11. Why did you do to warn your friends instead of calling out from the balcony?
  12. Who contacted the authorities?
  13. Who participated in the searches?
  14. Did anyone outside of the group learn about Maddie’s disappearance during the following minutes?
  15. Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?
  16. What does the expression “we let her down” mean?
  17. Did Jane mention to you that she had see a man with a child that night?
  18. How were the authorities contacted and which police force was called?
  19. During the searches, and already with the police present, in what locations was Maddie searched for, how and in what manner?
  20. Why didn’t the twins wake up during that search, or when they went to the upper floor?
  21. Who did you call after the facts?
  22. Did you call SKY News?
  23. Did you know about the danger of calling the media, because that could influence the abductor?
  24. Did you request the presence of a priest?
  25. How was Madeleine’s face publicized, with a photograph, or other media?
  26. Is it true that during the search you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?
  27. How did you behave that evening?
  28. Did you manage to sleep?
  29. Before the trip to Portugal, did you comment on a bad feeling or a bad premonition?
  30. What was Madeleine’s behaviour?
  31. Did Maddie suffer of any disease or did she take any kind of medication?
  32. What was the relationship like between Madeleine and her siblings?
  33. What was the relationship like between Madeleine and her siblings, her friends and her colleagues at school?
  34. Concerning your professional life, in how many and in which hospitals have you worked?
  35. What is your medical specialty?
  36. Did you work by shifts, in emergency rooms or in other departments?
  37. Did you work on a daily basis?
  38. Did you stop working at a certain point in time? Why?
  39. Do your twin children have difficulty in falling asleep, are they unruly and does that upset you?
  40. Is it true that at certain times you were desperate over your children’s attitude and that left you were upset?
  41. Is it true that in England you considered the possibility of handing over Madeleine’s guardianship to a relative?
  42. In England, did you give your children medication? What type of medication?
  43. Within the process, you were shown films of cynotechnical inspection of forensic character, where the dogs can be seen marking indications of human cadaver odour and equally human blood traces, and only of human origin, as well as all the comments that were made by the responsible expert. After the visualization, and after cadaver odour was signaled in your bedroom next to the wardrobe and behind the sofa that was pushed against the living room window, you said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said?
  44. You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, concerning the marking of human blood behind the sofa by the detection dog
  45. You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, concerning the marking of cadaver odour in the boot of the vehicle that you rented a month after the disappearance?
  46. You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, concerning the marking of human blood in the boot of the vehicle?
  47. You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, upon being confronted with the result of the collection of Maddie’s DNA, which was analysed by a British lab, behind the sofa and inside the vehicle’s boot?
  48. Did you have any responsibility or intervention in the disappearance of your daughter?

The question that she answered

Are you aware of the fact that by not answering these questions you may compromise the investigation, which is trying to find out what happened to your daughter? She said “yes, if the investigation thinks so.”

Process becomes public tomorrow

From tomorrow onwards, the entire investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine will be made available to the arguidos, to the witnesses, to the lawyers and also to the journalists, because it is a case of manifest public interest.

The process, which was archived on the 21st of July, will also be available to the general public, a situation that will allow for an authentic scrutiny of the work that was developed by the Polícia Judiciária. This decision, which came as a surprise due to the fact that the case involves a child, was only announced at this point in time, after the Portuguese lawyers for the McCann family, Carlos Pinto de Abreu and Rogério Alves, requested the Portimão Court for priority in the access to the process.

Last Wednesday, the Court had requested the interested parties that had already asked for the consultation of the process to leave a CD at the secretary’s office, given the fact that the process will be supplied in a digital format.

The archiving of the investigation into the little girl’s disappearance, which happened on the 3rd of May 2007, in the Algarve, precipitated the lifting of the judicial secrecy, which had been extended precisely until the month of August.

425 Responses to “The 48 questions that remained unanswered”

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  1. 101
    Lo Says:

    As two Doctors the McCann’s earnings would have amounted to somewhere in the region of, lets say for arguments sake, 200K pa, if not more. Why if they both had professional jobs would they not hire a nanny to look after the children, unless they had something to hide? Usually parents earning that amount of money have very stressful jobs, and three children would add to that stress. The usual excuse for not hiring a nanny is the parent/parents, as in the case of the Beckhams, want to do the parenting themselves. But, unlike the Beckhams who have the luxury of an entourage, these two people had very full on careers too. It is also obvious from reading Mrs McCann’s Diary and the book that a) she was struggling to maintain a work like balance, and b) that Madeleine was an active little girl.

    Again, as Doctors these two people would have access a vast drugs cabinet. They also whilst struggling to cope with the children, (and who wouldn’t with three children under four years old) felt confident enough each night whilst on holiday to book a table for 8.30 pm and arrived,one assumes, most nights on time. How could they do that? How could they guarantee that all three children would be asleep by that time? As a parent myself I could not do that with one child, let alone three toddlers, and quite often have to leave invitations open ended on arrival times.

    I believe on the night Madeleine went missing, she actually died of a drug overdose, administered by her parents to make her go to sleep, so they could go out to dinner with friends, either that same night or the night before,but unfortunately I think it resulted in the death of Madeleine.

    Mrs McCann has said in a statement that she spent the night before madeleine died in the childrens bedroom because of a fight with her husband, but was it because Madeleine was ill, too ill to take to the hospital incase they where questioned and in the process died?

    Failing that…

    I believe that when the two women claimed they last went into the apartment together and witnessed all the children there, Madeleine was actually dead or in a coma, but Katie McCann did not realise.

    I believe that when Katie McCann went into the room alone on the final visit, it is only then she actually check properly on Madeleine and realised this was the case.

    I believe the book and the diary has been written to throw people off their scent with suggestiveness, but more to persuade people that there was an abductor, when in fact there was not. Also, Mrs. McCann herself actually suggests that the abductor came into the apartment on two consecutive nights and administered drugs to make the twins sleepy so enabling him to slip into the apartment without waking the youngest two children. Did she do that just in case the police took specimens from the remaining children?

    I believe that this is the reason the parents do not see themselves as wrong in leaving the children alone that night, and will not accept the blame, because the blame they do have resting on their shoulders is the result, rather than the cause of that neglect.

    I believe that is why Mrs McCann deleted all the calls off her mobile phone the night Madeleine went missing, to delete especially the ones to her husband when she’d found out what happened.

    I believe that is why the police reported the apartment had been tampered with and forensics lost before they arrived, because on that night she tried in a frenzy to resuscitate the child.

    I believe that is why the toy Madeleine carried every where, the little cat had been washed. To get rid of the forensics, a) to cover up that nights events, as Madeleine most probably was sick, and also, b) to stop any sniffer dogs finding her body from the scent

    What I don’t believe is, if you have a three year old little girl, who by your own admission is an active child, you would leave an apartment door open – I have an eight year old, at the time this happened he was also three, and under no circumstances would you do that. In fact for various reasons you just would not leave three children on their own in an apartment, unless of course you were absolutely sure they wouldn’t wake up, and wander off in the time you were gone.

    I don’t believe that a mother who had just lost her child would have the vision nor willingness to pen a diary, nor indeed the actually strength/imagination put a book together. Yet Katie McCann has managed to pen a book, get it published, and on the shelves. All in the name of finding Madeleine.

    I don’t believe also, that any mother who had just lost her child would strap on her jogging shoes and go jogging a few days after with her husband, unless of course she needed to focus her mind., and lets face it her mind needed focusing because she was about to lose everything if she were found out.

    Finally their appearance at the Leveson Enquiry…. and the outpouring of rage on twitter which is where I began to notice people like yourselves. When you first look at that on face value one assumes, as a doubter, they are doing it for publicity and maybe even a handout of money. I don’t think so, I think they are doing this so the tabloids who carry news to the majority, the same majority Mrs McCann upholds that very prominent scouse accent for, and the same tabloids who, whilst being vile at the way the extract information, kept their story alive, have now served their purpose, and this couple would now like this story pushed under the carpet especially as the funds are running out, and they need to go back to the day job.

    Anyway those are my thoughts – I apologise to anyone they have offended but thank you kindly if you have got to the bottom of this page

    Site Admin: In the 4 1/2 years since Madeleine disappeared, this site has received more than enough information that demonstrates Madeleine died in May 2007. Your comment is well put together and there is no need to apologise for possible offence. How can the truth be offensive?

    Referring to your comment about their potential income, let’s not forget that Kate had become work-shy after the birth of the children. She was only working a few days in Melton Mowbray and that would not have given her the maximum earnings she was capable of.

    Our guess is that the McCanns were hard up because Gerry was having to compensate for Kate not working to her full potential. Add to that the high mortgage and car loans and you have a couple who were probably struggling to keep their heads above water. Their real income was probably closer to 100K than 200K.

    We see these pseudo-middle-class people in many walks of life. They rise from a relatively poor working class background and then they quickly want the trappings of success for bragging rights within their circle of friends. Add a bit of name-dropping and you can see through their fake lives. Look at the way Kate referred to the Prime Minister and Cherie Blair. You’d think she was their best friend with the way she talked about them on first name terms.

  2. 102
    john pocock Says:

    i recently wrote a short comment on friends reunited re, the mccann case and got a varied reaction but one thing i did notice was about 40% totally swallowed the story as related by kate and ,to a lesser extent(we know who wears the trousers)gerry.
    i myself have never been guided by or believed the “story” and am absolutely that a few more are also on our wavelength.
    if you would like to read the piece and the reaction ,good/bad it is on friends reunited over 60,s site

    thanks very much……….john

  3. 103
    Liz Y Says:

    Hi Lo! What a well thought out explanation of what may have happened, it’s great to hear of more people coming on board, and John, great initiative, that’s what we need, more people telling more people, every which way.
    Site admin, There is more than enough information to show that Madeleine died in that apartment, and there’s also more than enough information to show who did it but……nothing. That’s why it’s so important to tell others, and tell others to tell others. We need to have a voice that’s loud enough to drown out the bullshit of the whole bang shebang McCann!

  4. 104
    Josie Says:

    I’m open minded about so many things in this case but there is something that bothers me. So many people casually talk about the McCanns drugging their children to make them sleep and Madeleine accidentally dying of an overdose. Often people say this after pointing out that they are both doctors! Perhaps they were giving something to their children to make them sleep, but I cannot for one moment believe that, with all of their combined experience with medicine, they killed their child in that way.

  5. 105
    wifey Says:

    great site and I agree so much no offence here, just so much I am thinking about myself, my heart goes out to poor Madeleine!!

  6. 106
    Chris Says:

    Interesting development ……………. 254th April 2012 the UK Metroplitan Police having spent £2m of our money say they have an announcement to make BBC Tv News.

    Is the shit at last going to hit the fan? I do hope so………

  7. 107
    Chris Says:

    Link to the news item

  8. 108
    Chris Says:

    Panaroma tonight BBC 1 @ 7.30pm………..Madeleine the last hope:-

    The senior Uk investigator speaks out as to why he thinks he can explain her disappearance

  9. 109
    Chris Says:

    I watched the programme! So we have spent £2m and they are only 25% of the way through the investigation. He never explained the disappearance and basically just went over old ground. A picture of what Madeleine might look like now was shown but it did not come from the Metopolitan Police.

    Absolutely nothing new came out of the programme. No questions were raised about the following:-

    1. The unanswered 48 questions.
    2. The deleted mobile phone records
    3. Why they did not search for their child
    4. Why the toy was washed
    5. Why they let their friends et al into the flat thereby destroying the evidence in the flat.
    6. etc etc

    It was stated that the majority have now turned against the McCanns and particularly those in Portugal and many are those who have donated to their fund.

    I will post a link to the programme when and if it becomes available.

  10. 110
    Chris Says:

    The link:-

  11. 111
    Chris Says:

    Just thought you would find this interesting. I was watching the BBC Breakfast programme this morning. Under ‘coming up’ it was reported that the McCanns would be on the programme to discuss the latest developments and that there was a possibility that Madeleine was still alive.

    Surprise, surprise, they didn’t turn up just like they didn’t bother to look for Maddy 5 years ago. Instead there was waffle from one of their legal hangers on.

    Incredible……………….. no point in turning up if they know she is not alive is my interpretation.

  12. 112
    Liz Y Says:

    I find it quite sickening that the media are still courting the McCanns, I find it even more sickening, that they will appear on TV, to answer only questions, that have been vetted by themselves. I feel frustrated to the point of tearing my hair out, and so totally impotent at being unable to help this little girl and get to the truth of her disappearance. Surely this cannot be happening, when there is ‘supposed’ to be a full enquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann taking place, as we speak, how the hell can these people be invited by a TV Company to go onto the television to spout the usual crap being that Madeleine is still alive, during an investigation. They say that they will never give up looking, of course they won’t, it’s a nice little earner, all that it requires is that you pretend to sit around at home waiting by the phone, that they know will never ring. Madeleine is, in my opinion, dead, she isn’t going to be found, she’s gone forever, we know it and they know it. How much more of other people’s money do you want bum, Mr. and Mrs. McCann?? How on earth can The Met., allow these appearances to go unchecked, the McCanns are supposedly, at the very least, prime witnesses to a major crime, if not prime suspects of one, yet they carry on unfettered. It’s all totally insane, 2 people, involved in suspicious circumstances, not cleared, as they would have you think, but freed due to lack of evidence, can get in touch with the bloody PRIME MINISTER who then sets a precedent and agrees to bankroll another enquiry (Joe public take a bow), when they are/were the chief suspects, in the original investigation, which remains unresolved. And, they, (The Met) are processing information from the Private Investigators directed and paid for by the McCanns. (Another bow JP).
    Public’s sympathy is trickling away. Consider, (God Forbid) that another child goes missing, the mother of that child will be asking the authorities, and the general public, WHY WHY WHY??? I know I would.
    WHY is my child less important? WHY could the McCanns prompt the Prime Minister to pay millions of pounds of public money, when everyone is stretched to the limit? WHY did the McCanns never have to face tough questioning and cross examination, as well as the other 7, about the events of that night? WHY did they lie again, and again and again? WHY did MI6 escort them home from the airport? WHY haven’t the Gaspars statements been followed up – at the very LEAST? WHY didn’t they agree to a reconstruction? WHY didn’t she answer the questions? WHY did the dogs (not wrong in 200 prior cases) mark exactly the same places? WHY do they only admit feeling guilty that they weren’t with Madeleine at the moment she was allegedly taken? WHY have they said some really bizarre things? WHY is their body language all wrong? WHY did Gerry’s brother ditch a good job, at a time when they couldn’t have been sure she wouldn’t be found the next day? WHY did Goncalo’s dog die, WHY have witnesses
    mentioned being compromised. WHY make up the inflatable board story? WHY won’t they do a lie-detector? WHY did they leave their twins in the same location as their abducted daughter, to go meet the Pope? WHY did Madeleine cry for her father so long, even though Kate was in the apartment? Why have hundreds of things been said and done, that make no sense whatsoever? WHY did Tanner change her description so many times? WHY did they need a spin doctor? WHY did they tell everyone in the first few hours, that the shutters had been jemmied open? WHY didn’t they use the WHOLE of the fund to look for madeleine, as was promised, instead paying for Top Legal Beagles? WHY were they both laughing days after she went missing? WHY did they feel upbeat enough to go jogging, when everyone else would have folded? WHY do they constantly insult peoples intelligence? WHY is it that, had they been living on benefits on council estate, they would be in prison? WHY did the Social Services not take their other children, on the grounds of criminal neglect?
    As my mother used to say when she couldn’t answer her childrens whys. Because Y is a crooked letter and you can’t straighten it!!!
    New enquiry = Whitewash. Everything changes, but remains the same.
    The secret they hold must be SOOOOOOOOO damaging to someone SOOOOOOOOO important!!

  13. 113
    Liz Y Says:

    Referring to my last comment, you others must have loads of WHYS too. Because there is an enormous amount of reading to do, to be up to speed, (I am nowhere near), can everyone unearth their own niggles, so that anyone new on here, can get a potted version of why we’re here, so that all the niggles are easily read, and in one place, (a bit like the info being collated by the Met). They can read the rest, at their own speed. Besides no-one can retain all the information they have read before, so let’s hear the bits that really struck a cord with you. Let’s remember the niggles are why we are here.
    I’ve just had a thought, it’s occurred to me before, that some of the McCann’s comments make sense in the way they’re phrased, if they had a lie detector in mind.
    One of those has just popped out at me, the McCann’s said they felt guilty that they weren’t with Madeleine, at the moment she was ‘taken’. Which would be true, if taken meant died, because they had enough medics around to resuscitate her (so said one of the 7 I think), which would also cover the ‘we’ve let her down’. Just a thought and probably one posted by someone else 5 years ago, which illustrates the point above.

  14. 114
    Chris Says:

    Hi Liz,

    I suggest you start a list which others can cut and paste into. You could start with the 48 unanswered questions but I suggest not. One little problem is we will probably run out of space on the system!

    I’m happy to add to your list but I will need to do some re-reading.

    Chris (West Sussex UK)

    Ps It really p’s me off that we are spending all this money and there is no sight of the McCanns. Rumour has it they are making some sort of appearance on Wednesday. No doubt they will refuse any unvetted questions.

  15. 115
    Liz Y Says:

    Hi Chris, I wish my computer skills were as good as you think they are. I am absolutely hopeless, I don’t even know what cut and paste means, I come across the words often enough, and I am sure that it’s great to have things that cut corners and make things easier, but alas I just don’t get it.
    Nice to hear from you anyway.

  16. 116
    John Says:

    Hi there, I really don’t know what to think about this case. Now the Maddie story is back in the headlines I decided to look around on google for various points of view and I came across this website, which I find very interesting and thought provoking.

    What I don’t understand is that if the McCanns are responsible for the death of their daughter Maddie, why don’t they just fade away into the backgroung never to be heard of again ? I mean if they have gotten away with murder the last thing they would want is more publicity, and the prospect of the case being reopened ? I’m sure these points have been covered on this site, but I’m not convinced its for the money from the Maddie fund.

    I do find this Clarence Mitchell character to be very dubious and creepy, he is in it for the money and the publicity, but if he knew what really happened to Maddie then he would have sold out the McCanns ages ago to the highest tabloid bidder.

    Just another point, I’m English, and I have lived in Lisbon, Portugal for 15 years and I have complete faith in the Portuguese criminal investigation police, they are just as profesional and capable as the UK police, in my opinion.

  17. 117
    William Swithin Says:

    This case stinks from start to finish. It is obvious here that these two are acting with impunity because I think some other eminant person is involved. Point 1/ upon returning to the apartment and fining the child missing it is not normal reaction for a mum to shout,”Shes gone” the normal reaction would be, Hey Gerry, I cant find Maddie, come and help me find her.2/ The theory of the child being abducted by a childless woman or couple is a non starter because the obvious choice for such a woman would be the youngest children and not a 4 year old. I am amazed at the questions being refused an answer because I find nothing offensive in them. What I cant understand is in kight of the evidence against these two why are they still walking the streets. Collin Stagg was charged with nurder on the flimbsy evidence that he daily walked his dog in the murder area. What he done was volunteer to take a lie detector test to prove his innocence, something these two refuse to do. Wth the evidence of the dogs and the gaspar statement these two are guilty as sin and they are making a fortune from killing their own daughter.

  18. 118
    Darren N Says:

    I’ve held my own theory for years – and in the process had to put up with some fairly aggressive responses in the process. These 2 have courted the media to such a degree it’s incredible, whilst all the while hiding behind such a cloak of lies that it beggars belief.

    The papers are just as much to blame, they got onto the parents ‘band-wagon’ and soon realised that their continued support would sell newspapers.

    What a sick, sick society we live in…! If the parents had not been a GP and Consultant then the headlines would have read “Scumbag couple dessert kids to go on drinking binge…!”

    Do you think that’s harsh? Well if you do, just google some of the other stories of Brits abroad who left their kids or didn’t return to their hotel and left their kids etc. ALL were hung out to dry and given the full venom of the British Red Tops.

    I won’t apologise for putting it so bluntly. Remember: Kate, as a GP, would have held the power to call in social services if whilst back in the UK she’d had a parent as a patient who subsequently confessed to going out to socialise whilst leaving his / her minors unattended. Are we that sick and media influenced / driven that we simply just brush all this under the carpet?

    Well educated medical professionals do not simply abandon their children to go for tapas. I cannot swallow this as being credible and, for a lot of the UK polulation, neither can they….

    Whether or not they accidently OD’d this poor child or she was ‘accidently’ shaken to death only they will know the truth. Suffice to say that when administering sedatives to such a small bodyframe and mass as a child then it is actually quite easy to cause unintentional O/D (overdose) – something like gradual respiratory failure would be extremely difficult to detect, even if you were sat watching the child from the bedside.

    Children’s bodies will intitially compensate for the effects of a sedative quite well, and no medical emergency will be clearly identifiable. In this sort of situation, you’d possibly only know that something was seriously wrong when you went to rouse the child and they remained unresponsive.

    Looking at the non-verbal signals (body language) given off in the early interviews / statements I can tell you that the finger of guilt sits firmly with the mother. I firmly believe the father is completely domineering and took hold of the situation once the ‘accident’ had been revealed.

    The mother is the key and either shook the poor child to death, accidently OD’d her or maybe a combination of both of the latter. Either way she then had to inform the husband who then, to my mind, carried as much guilt in the proceedings, by arranging the disposal of this poor child’s body.

    He is the voice and spokesman as she simply cannot carry the guilt and effectively hide it. Gerry knows this and hence he is the ‘lead man’ in this macabre charade.

    If this was your child and you saw websites like this how would you feel if you had nothing to hide, surely you’d feel they had the potential to mask the truth? Therefore, wouldn’t you ‘go public’ and maybe volunteer to take a lie detector test? Thus gaining more public support and assistance once proved innocent, all rumours and theories quashed immediately?

    Would you not leave no stone unturned in you quest to find your child? Like all lies, this has built up such momentum that the point at which it should have all been stopped by the parent has now passed and the inertia of the circus has taken over.

    Likewise with the initial investigations by the Police in Portugal, would you not just answer every single question. Surely your mind would be in such a distressed state that you would’t even be capable of analysing each question to such depth…

    THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT and we will unfortunately find that a huge amount of the populous have been looking for a child that has sadly departed from this mortal coil and that we, as the general public, have been the victims of one of the single biggest lies in history.

    As for this so called husband and wife, well they’re stuck with each other now. I think presonally they’d have gone their own separate ways years ago. But now they are bound for eternity by an awful and shocking set of lies and deceipt.

    Forget the tabloids, forget the PC statements of the police. Ask ANY body language expert or even a serving member of the CID and they will all try to avoid discussing the case. Only once you push them a bit do you find out why…They all belive the parents are guilty.

  19. 119
    norman belfast Says:

    i have alwats said right from the start that kate and gerry McCann O/D their daughter maddie … when are the police going to arrest the McCanns for the MURDER of their daughter …. and after reading all the items wrote about the case … i believe the McCanns are guilty of maddies murder too many things don,t add up with kate and gerry version of the story …. they know what they done ? its time they were charged with maddies murder so the truth can come out ..

  20. 120
    adam Says:

    Always been interested in this case, but only recently have i began to read the facts. It is an extremely intersting case for many reasons, with alot of complex factors into it. I want to keep as much of an open mind as possible until i have read every possible fact about it all, i cant judge before i have maximum information. I would have loved to have been able to work on this kind of case. All your comments were good reading and i will come back and read again after i have tried to come to a conclusion myself, which i will share. good reading people, thanks.

  21. 121
    Chris Says:

    Hi John,

    “What I don’t understand is that if the McCanns are responsible for the death of their daughter Maddie, why don’t they just fade away into the backgroung never to be heard of again ?”

    Unfortunately ‘Maddie’ has been made into a money making machine fo the McCanns. The McCanns do fade into the background. When they ‘pop up’ it is to promte a book (more money) for example. They have nothing new to tell and refuse to answer any proper questions. They refuse to have proper interviews on British TV and send a representative. Well, that is some why to find your missing daughter.

    Why we the British taxpayer are paying £10m to look into this case and the McCanns have not had a public grilling needs answering.

  22. 122
    Liz Y Says:

    The McCanns have had an answer from the start which, would silence their many critics of which I am one, enable them to save thousands of pounds on legal teams, do away with private investigators (all of which could be added to the fund, which was needed to find Madeleine remember).
    It seems that they want to force their opinion us, and have gone to great lengths and expense, to achieve this outcome. Their mantra – no stone unturned – doesn’t apply to lie-detectors obviously, so why not? This small act would prove their innocence once and for all, then all the money would go into the fight to find Madeleine. Surely that would be be better for you Kate and Gerry, you wouldn’t then need to stamp out people’s books, websites and the media, your life would be easier, no more watching what you say, you could sack your legal beagles, you wouldn’t need them anymore, even more money for the fund. It’d be the end of your suffering, so why not???
    It couldn’t be because you’re a rotten pair of liars, could it?

  23. 123
    Chris Says:

    Interesting development.

    I think we all agree that to solve the case we need a body, alive or not. There is no proof that this is not a bluff.

  24. 124
    Liz Y Says:

    Hi Chris, I couldn’t get the link to Panorama, it just came on briefly and disappeared. I saw the first link and read some of the articles that were with it and now, I feel like bashing my head against a brick wall, nothing has changed, everyone of them was pro McCann extolling their virtue’s all dripping with pity. I feel a massive disappointment coming on, I feel certain that this new enquiry is already showing all the classic signs of a cover up, and I think it’ll be the final exoneration for the McCanns, as I’ve stated elswhere it’ll be ‘Of course they didn’t do it -even the Met. says so’!! You can tell even at this early stage, that it’s a whitewash, I bet when the verdict is given pro McCann, it’ll be a damned sight harder to say or write anything against them. They want closure alright…. just not the same closure that we have in mind. Unless the Met. are playing everything close to their chests, but it doesn’t seem so. The McCanns want closure as in… it’s over, we’ve done everything we could,(except tell the truth) and now we want to get off the carousel without losing face, especially Gerry, the big I am. They created this monster and now they want rid, well… the donations aren’t as much as they had been and more and more people are starting to wonder…. Perhaps now the investigation has taken over, any monies left in the McCann fund could be donated to other mums with missing children. Hah… Didn’t think so.
    I wonder why it is that all Madeleine finders seem to be South African, quite an interesting article though. Maybe all the arguidos were into something very illicit.
    In my opinion Madeleine had ADHD or some similar disorder, I have it myself and only recently diagnosed, I mention it because the risk of extreme physical and mental violence toward a such a child by an ADHD parent (diagnosed or not). I know because I was just such a child, the sort of child that stretches anyone to the absolute limit, but another adhd sufferer – Parent – Kate possibly, but Gerry ticks all the boxes, he’s brash, rude, cant be thwarted or put down. one of them said Maddie was a screamer, and being ADHD she wouldn’t need much sleep, and if the door was open and I doubt not that Madeleine would find them herself if she wanted to, and that’s the last thing K+G wanted, so maybe she was drugged (not with Calpol I don’t think) maybe phenergan or the like, which is why Kate remained seated in the kids bedroom watching the twins closely, making sure that their chests were rising and falling hence still breathing.I am reasonably sure that Madeleine’s body will never surface, they know she wont be found, they’ve hidden her well.

  25. 125
    Chris Says:

    Hi Liz,

    So what is ADHD – excuse the ignorance? My interest in this case goes back to a post I made just after it happened, on a financial website, saying that the parents had to be the prime suspects. I could not believe the abuse I received. We are very lucky in having a son and daughter both now early thirties. We took them abroad many times and would never have left them alone.

    The McCanns don’t seem to add up, for want of a better word, and I am surprised still that many of my posts never appear or get deleted (Huff post a good example).

    Something very wrong is going on and I do hope we eventually get to the bottom of it.

    btw Another of my posts was just before the Iraq war. “Do you really trust this government?” I still cannot get my head around how anyone, in this day and age, can bomb people from 30,000 feet whether the pilot or the government. You are going to kill thousands of innocent people.

  26. 126
    Liz Y Says:

    I watched the programme last night, about murdered Soham girl Holly Wells’ parents and their quest to have some normalcy in their lives, and what a fight it has been and and still is. You see Kate and Gerry, their daughter died at the hands of a paedophile, and in the days, months and years that followed, they’ve quietly grieved, and tried to recover the tatters of family life they had left after it was engulfed by the tragedy of Holly’s death, and then, immersed themselves way to help people who have suffered similar experiences. Not for them then, the jogging, the cuddle cat, the press conferences, the ribbons and the wristbands, the demands, the tantrums, they didn’t harass the police for the private files concerning their daughter, nor belittled the same for their own agenda. They could have had a field day with the authorities because, the death of their daughter was as a direct result of the complete failure of the system, designed to weed out paedophiles, applying for work around children. What did they do? Quietly accept that sometimes, things go horribly wrong. They weren’t screaming for blood, with their grubby little hands out. Their (The Wells)immediate thoughts were, not to call in the media, nor make a plan of the circumstances they found themselves in, they didn’t have any need, because THEY hadn’t done anything wrong. They didn’t delete their cellphone history, they went looking and carried on ALL night, again and again. I bet they couldn’t sleep after a few days grieving. You can bet your sweet life that they answered ALL the bloody questions, they weren’t on tv or in the papers, being arrogant, or dripping with self pity, trying to leech MORE money off people poorer than themselves.
    Kevin Wells wrote a book also, to be honest I haven’t read it, but I’m probably right in assuming it didn’t touch on their intimate relationship problems after Holly’s death. They gave the police the most up to date image of the girls, taken a few hours earlier. The baby photo’s of Madeleine were sent to the world, and it was days after that, the latest image of Madeleine with the tennis balls, hit the press, and the girl looked nothing like the other Madeleine on the first posters. (Was this buying for time to enable an escape or, could it be a different girl? I’m open to anything with this pair)??
    So Kate and Gerry, do you get my drift? Your behaviour is abnormal – no that’s not the right word, I can’t even think of a word that in anyway describes the actions of you two. Holly’s parents behaved with the utmost dignity and honesty, and they have shedloads of what you totally lack – it’s called dignity, and do you know why? It’s because their daughter genuinely died at the hands of a paedophile, you two can’t do that can you, because you know what happened to Madeleine. So you’re just making it up as you go along – and it shows!!
    Honesty, Dignity and Integrity…..

  27. 127
    James Rooney Says:

    Why did they pop in, to see the Pope?

    It wouldn’t look very good, if we found out that the Pope gives private audiences, to child murderer’s

    That’s why Catholic Portugal, will never charge them.

    The Pope wouldn’t give, a private audience, to child murderer’s, would he?


  28. 128
    Chris Says:

    The Pope did not give them a private audience. He was very clever just a public 30 seconds.

    June 2007 – They handed him a photograph of their precious little girl Madeleine and watched him bless it with the Sign of the Cross!

    Read more:

    I don’t understand where you are coming from.

  29. 129
    norman Says:

    after all this time the uk police are no further forward with the mc canns the case seems to have gone cold along with the cold and bloody murderers of kate and gerry mc cann. they know them selfs that they killed maddie. its now time the uk police start putting pressure on the mc canns and arrest and charge them with the murder of maddie…. look at the guy in the papers at the moment for the little girl who has disappeared in england they have charged him with the murder of her and no body found… WHY dont the police charge the mc canns with the murder of maddie .its the same type of case NO BODY… The mc canns are guilty of murder…. GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY

  30. 130
    Rebecca Says:

    I have a few theories…… Theory 1) due to drugs being administered- or not – Madeleine had an accident in the room – which is why blood was detected. The curtain was ruffled behind the couch (where blood was detected- perhaps she became trapped behind the couch. The McCanns (or just Jerry) then removed or had removed her body. Who knows who they knew in that area? They later retrieved her body put it in the boot of the car they hired 20 days later and disposed of it themselves.
    Theory 2)This is closer to what I think happened – Gerry McCann (after drinking throughout the evening)sexually assaulted Madeleine when he checked on her at about 9pm – this would explain him saying he had a conversation outside the room with a man (to cover up the extra time the check took). This assault explains the blood – he took her behind the couch (pulled it out) out of direct sight. (there is an Oprah interview where he speaks of the twins sound asleep and then describes Madeleine lying with her toy, blanket – his voice peters off as he is talking and he does not say if she was awake, sound asleep or anything…. isn’t this a key factor?? AND if you watch it check his change of expression when he describes her – very creepy)He has then either killed or drugged her (or drugged her before the assault) put her in the wardrobe after which she has been removed from the apartment (dead OR alive). He has killed or drugged her to cover up what he has done – to stop her crying/distress etc. He has flung the windows open as a cover up. He has then told Kate that Madeleine is dead – drug overdose or injured herself in the room – he has said they will dispose of her and explained how it is to be done….. her side of it etc. (or that he has disposed of her already)She has gone along with it to protect them all. OR he has just let Kate find the situation out and later told her the story (leaving out the sexual assault and saying she had an accident).
    Theory 3) Kate wasnt coping at all with the kids. She never bonded with Madeleine properly. This was all set up so she would never have to deal with Madeleine again. Her husbands answer to the problem – I have never seen a genuine love or sentiment for Madeleine in all his interviews. I hope she was passed on into a loving situation if this is the case. However she likely loves her parents more than they ever did her.
    I believe Gerry McCann is a tyrant behind the scenes. He is likely Anti-social Personality Disorder (many hold high up jobs/careers). I was in a relationship with one for 8 years and can spot them. Kate McCann is, in fact, terrified of what he is capable of as she knows/sees a side of this man that others do not. He has brainwashed her and she has brainwashed herself to hold things together enough for the twins and to cover everything up. He is the driving force behind all the stories they have told. Perhaps on Kate’s deathbed the truth may come out. Interestingly two of the ‘sightings’ of Madeleine involve a woman who appears to be the same woman – one near where they were staying and the other in Brussels (UK?). (So two sightings – on camera – different countries -possibly same woman) (also fit with woman/child that came into my clothing shop in NZ – this furthers my interest in this case). Maybe after being drugged and removed she was passed on to someone – a payment could of been made to murder her but perhaps that never happened. Perhaps Maddies blood was found in the boot of the car hired 20 days later as it was small amounts off Jerry’s clothes from the assault? I believe she could still be alive and I hope she for her own sake and as she could be the key to the truth. The MCCanns are deeply immeshed in this and the toll of Kate – look at her appearance is due to two things – 1) the loss of her daughter 2) the stories and cover ups. I think money exchanged hands and still possibly does – silence threats? – and the McCanns finances should be gone through with a fine tooth comb.

  31. 131
    chris Says:

    Hi Rebecca,

    Well put, I think we all agree the parents know a lot more than they are telling.

    I would be interested in your comments on the possibilty that Kate ‘did it’ and Gerry is covering ‘it’ up. Kate seems a very weak individual and would imo do as told by Gerry. What brain she has left, it seems Gerry has taken control of.

    Any news on the Met Police investigation! Must be over £20m!! Unbelievable.

  32. 132
    Rebecca Briggs Says:

    I would describe Kate as weak…. I was involved with a Personality Disordered person for 8 years – Antisocial Personality Disorder (term for Psychopathy) – and I would say from outer appearances the victim can appear weak when in fact they are the strongest people around as they are trying to get through and survive the unimaginable. The mind is played with to the degree of feeling one is going mad. I recognise Gerry as a tyrant and I see in Kate this underlying fear of him and his capabilities. This is what has controlled her actions and kept her captive and she would of gotten to the stage of feeling she is in a deep dark hole with no way out. The stories and lies have her further emmeshed. Very sad situation all round as the twins would feel and be affected by all this.

  33. 133
    Rebecca Briggs Says:

    Mistype sorry – it was meant to read “I WOULDNT describe Kate as weak….”

  34. 134
    anon1 Says:

    It’s not as simple as that, it seems to me, Chris. This was not independently the McCanns. There are elements in place which detract attention. Things were organisd. There were people watching the appartment, watching the McCanns at the beach, for example. That was not a coincidence. Further, it is unliklely Jane Tanner would have turned around to concoct her story of a man with long hair with a child upon suddenly being told Gerry the doctor killed Madeleine minutes beforehand. The story appeared very quickly back in the appartment after the alarm was raised. It unlikely to have been invented so suddenly, upon just learning that Gerry or Kate has killed Madeleine.

    Two things: The McCanns are not telling the truth. And, there was something organised going on. What backs up the second point is the fact that the McCanns have been going so strongly, right from the start, for five and a half years now. The sheer determination of anyone involved in the accidental, unexpected death of their child, who can do that consistently for so long, can’t have anything to do with a chance accident. Watching the interviews, they are so assured. Even in the weakness prop times. No-one could keep that up for 5 and half years after an ACCIDENT, later acting to become an ambassador for missing children. They are SO assured. In the face of that their story doesn’t add up in so many ways. It’s not an independent thing. And even how the Tapas group are so tight and organised, easily seems to require pre-planning.

  35. 135
    Liz Y Says:

    This pair are either the weirdest couple ever, or they are lying through their teeth. They don’t seem to be bothered about Madeleine because they know she is dead. You are right Rebecca, they don’t sound right. I have often thought, way back to the beginning, of Kate’s saying ‘She’s Special’ in a flat, apathetic monotone, not She’s soooo special, none of the passion that you’d expect from a mother whose beloved daughter had been abducted, which is bad enough, but by paedophiles!! No it’s all so very wrong. Gerry doesn’t come across any better in his clipped tones, it’s all self-importance, fame and money, it’s a real shame he doesn’t know how bloody stupid he actually is, for even vaguely thinking that we’d swallow his load of bilge. That two people could come together and both act in this manner is bewildering, both coming across as unfeeling and narcissistic, at best, and really strange at worst. You’d expect one of them to try to show some depth, however small, of the emotions a normal couple going through this nightmare, but they’re both reading the same script. If your 3 year old child went missing between your alleged checks on the children, you’d expect, at the very least, one of them screaming for pal (Oldfield?s) blood, for not checking properly or noticing the window being open, if not that then treating him with great suspicion like ‘what did you do to her’ anyone and everyone would be suspicious. Your mind would be all over the place, you wouldn’t be sitting there thinking about writing down 2 plans of the evening’s checks – on Madeleine’s activity book, (which is a no-no all on it’s own), you’d be running wildly searching in dustbins, dark corners screaming Madeleine! Madeleine! You’d be running anywhere just in case the abductor was still in the vicinity. The instinct that makes you panic, if your child has been out of your sight for a more than a moment, is too powerful to be denied, you just wouldn’t be try to steer anyone towards abduction, because you couldn’t possibly know with any certainty, at that time, what had happened. Your brain would be mashed, if, of course, your child had been abducted.
    The fact that you never hear anything of their fellow revellers of that night, not a peep, is very strange. Usually when people have been headline news concerning a crime (even if just for abandonment of their children, never mind an abduction of one of them), the newsmen would still be coming across little snippets here and there, so and so has had a baby, got married or was bitten by a dog, but no, nothing. That’s also suspicious enough to set cogs whirring. The fact that David Payne hasn’t been hauled in for questioning, also speaks volumes.
    What the hell do the McCanns expect us to do, who the hell do they think they are? Do they just think we’re all too thick to realise that there is a pretty extreme cover-up going on. What hold is it that they seem to have, over various influential figures including Prime Ministers and politicians, the fact that they’ve been advised by spin doctors, is self-evident. They have pat answers for every question too, (some so ludicrous, they just make your mouth drop open), all the while pretending to be sincere.
    I think the Mccanns were surprised how easily it was to get people to send money, for them to spend as they saw fit, and by God they’ve milked it, but they’ve had enough now and they want out, the problem for them is the ever-widening audience who are cottoning on. We’re not just a few evil and mad people on the internet, there are thousands of us who will never leave them alone. The only thing I fear is that, having had a review/enquiry by the Met, and let’s face it, if they haven’t by now arrested the McCanns, they ain’t going to, will be a final absolution for the saints Kate and Gerry. They will then be able to sue anyone who says anything, hence their begging for Cameron not to abandon the banning of the no win, no fee option for libel cases. They wont be able to afford top lawyers to keep people from reading or hearing anything other than their ‘truth’ it’s not just because it kept the funds coming in, when (please God) the wider general public find out about how they’ve lied and conned, and how they’ve spent THEIR money, there will be absolute mayhem, people will be absolutely and rightly furious, nobody likes feeling they’ve been made a complete fool of, especially when they’ve parted with hard earned cash.
    I have no ideas left, I veer to and fro, sometimes weeping with rage and frustration. Maybe, just maybe, some light may be shone on this, with the allegations flying round about some of our supposed betters, indulging in or covering-up child abuse on a massive scale. Being what they are, the higher-ups will protect you to a point, but if naming a few a few names will get them out of the shit, they will squeal like babies. Just a thought!

  36. 136
    Chris Says:

    anon1 Says:
    And even how the Tapas group are so tight and organised, easily seems to require pre-planning.

    I believe the child died considerably earlier than we are led to believe. That would allow time for the planning. The group are so tight? They are a bit of a strange lot. Hopefully money is involved (out of the pot). If so cracks will appear and the truth will eventually come out.

    What are the Met Police up too! Must be on a £20m jolly.

    btw Thanks Liz & Rebecca interesting reads.
    Me – I just want justice for Madeleine.

  37. 137
    Liz Y Says:

    Hi Chris, Yes a voice for a little girl, that’s all any of us want. Strangely so should her parents, but they are determined she shouldn’t have one. Why is that? There is a solution to all this which would a) Stop people regarding them as suspects in the disappearance of their daughter. b) Cease the need to spend lots of other people’s money on top libel and extradition lawyers, thereby enabling them to spend more money on actually searching for Madeleine. c) Save the rest of us having to fork out for a mortgage and a Met. review, which will, no doubt reveal that they played no part in Madeleine’s disappearance. d) Keep the money coming in. e) Not having to watch what they’re saying for the rest of their lives. All this and more, and how is this possible? Take the lie detector test, that they said they would take, when they were still in Portugal!!
    They were probably told to say it, because the thick people wouldn’t remember, and if we did, then just ignore us, another politicians trick. The poor Met. are going to be busy little bees aren’t they? Mind you I suppose they can lump the two enquiries together because they’re both about child abuse aren’t they?

  38. 138
    john LeClerc Says:

    I notice many people here are banging on about the McCann’s not taking the Lie Dector test. This is silly as “the most common and long used measure is the polygraph, which is considered by the National Academy of Sciences to be unreliable”

    Site Admin: With respect I think you miss the point John. The point of taking a lie-detector test is that it is seen as proof of innocence rather than proof of guilt. Regardless of the reliability, polygraphs are used daily by law enforcement and its use is far from silly.

    The McCanns are bare-faced liars and that is a fact without any polygraph being used. Just read their statements and see how they have altered them over time. Their initial statements to family claimed that the bedroom window had been broken into. They referred to the window as being “jemmied open”. Considering that the window was not jemmied and there was no sign of any forced entry, that is probably as bare-faced a lie as is possible. A polygraph could not improve on the truthfulness of that issue because we already know it is a lie.

  39. 139
    chris Says:

    Hi John,

    I think most of the posters here are banging on about the McCanns answering the questions put to them. They don’t answer any.

    They still insist there daughter was abducted – even yesterday Gerry on BBC (Leveson) news etc. If that is the case it must have been a known threat so why leave her alone? Dream on…………answer the questions — your getting away with………….. murder?

  40. 140
    norman Says:

    what gets me is that david cameron and the british police are doing nothing about kate and gerry mc cann …. when is the british goverment going to wake up and smell the coffee and have kate and gerry mc cann arrested for the murder of maddie … and not forgetting the tapas 7 they should be arrested as well for their part in the cover up as well….. come on david cameron have the mc canns arrested and the tapas 7 as well… and give the british tax payer something for their money

  41. 141
    chris Says:

    Hi Norman

    It’s very stange that Cameron must have spent the best part of £20m of our money on this. Where is the accountability. Why have the McCanns not been called publically in for questioning?

    Guess he doesn’t like the Met Police conclusions.

    I have to agree with you………….so bring in UKIP (I’m not political) but the public spending on this must end.

    As you say we need to see something for our money and truth for Madeleine.

  42. 142
    Liz Y Says:

    I was reading through and a thought occurred to me (it’s probably been brought up by someone else hundreds of times) just imagine Madeleine did say ‘why didn’t you come when me and Sean cried’ Kate and Gerry, far from stepping up the amount of checks, upped the medication instead. If this was a hyperactive child, there’s absolutely no way she would sleep to order, and she would quickly develop a tolerance to medication, maybe she woke and climbed onto the sofa and tried to look out of the window, fell into the gap and smacked her head on the hard floor, perhaps choked on her own vomit, because a sedative could affect the swallowing muscles. That would explain the blood, but not the peadophile undertones of this case. The only thing I’m sure of is that Madeleine is dead, and that weird bunch of people are all involved to some degree (Except, I think Diane Webster). The financial back-up of the McCanns, by businessmen and women is understandable, it was all absolutely believable at the beginning. For me it was the strange behaviour, body language and utterings of the McCanns that spooked me quite early on. Everyone I knew, and everyone they knew were all saying the same things, mainly – The McCanns did something, whatever IT was, they were involved. It was a some time before I found this site, and I can’t even recall how I did, but I immediately found people of like minds, from all walks of life, sharing their individual knowledge gleaned from their experiences of their trades and relationships with others. Doctors and mental health workers, detectives, other professional people, ordinary mums and dads, teenagers, all offering their unique perspectives, people who got all of the various sites up and running, interpreters who translated countless thousands of pages of information, including Amaral’s books, PJ Files etc. etc., All of them, with no other purpose than to speak for a little girl who could not speak for herself. That’s really something isn’t it. We’re not the few bad, evil people on the internet, that the McCanns have labelled us. Where would this world be without those who question, who have finely tuned logical minds, who are willing to speak out against injustice and refuse to give up on a cause, especially one that has been so vociferously opposed. These people who see their work torn down, and just start again. I am in total awe of all you people you’re amazing!!

  43. 143
    Nick Adkin Says:

    I’ve been totally convinced of Gerry and Kates guilt right from the off. I’ve read with interest the views and opinions of others who have also seen right through their web of lies, and I concur with the vast majority of them. The one thing that’s really stood out for me, and I strongly believe this fact alone demonstrates their story is utter garbage, is that in EVERY televised interview or appearance, NOT ONCE did either Kate or Gerry shed any ACTUAL TEARS. Gerry, throughout it all has appeared cold, aloof and totally in control. Kate has done her best impression of being bereft and upset, but as I’ve said; with absolutely NO TEARS AT ALL. You need to be a proper actor to be able to turn on the tears at will, which she’s not. Contrast her ‘performances’ with the obviously genuine appearances on press conferences of parents who had REALLY had a child abducted, and/or murdered. You’d have to be a total moron not to see what’s genuine grief, pain and despair. And you’d have to be a total moron to choose to believe the disgusting lies these two peddle. I shall continue to attempt to convince the (sadly large numbers) of gullible fools more than willing to accept the Mcanns ‘account’ of the truth, as opposed to simply, THE TRUTH.

  44. 144
    chris Says:

    It was also those first interviews that made me start to think there’s the smell of a rat here. If either of my two went missing I would not shout out “he/she has been abducted”. I would have screamed out there name and gone looking for them. I would not have stopped for days. I’d do the same now – they are both now in their thirties.

    The McCanns never bothered. Just deleted all their telephone calls and messages.

    One good thing about this site you can post a comment and it will be published. Have you tried any of the ‘McCann mafia’ ones? You will find it never appears.

  45. 145
    G1 Says:

    I want to reply to Liz in comment 142 above.

    I’d just written lots – so much I was very surprised myself – in reply to someone else about the “accidental death and cover up” scenario.

    I think, personally, it is really, really important – critical – to look at this seriously. And that that theory needs to be really examined and the real prospects of it being a serious possibility or not, really, really need to be shown up clearly. I’d really like people who favour the “accident and cover up” theory to look more seriously at this scenario – as I know it’s a really popular theory. But I don’t feel people are weighing up things fully there.

    So I want to ask you to read a WHOLE LOT I’ve written, in three comments. It is probably hard going (sorry if so, it looks it!), but I’d ask you to stick with it. It’s a lot, but I think so fundamental.

    It’s comments 96, 97 and 98 on the “The Facts Versus the Fiction” article page. Link:

  46. 146
    Chris Says:

    Hi Gi

    I’ve had a quick read so you don’t think it was an accident?

    I’m not sure either. If not it has to be something worse?

    Interestingly my father was a doctor and my mother a nurse. Father long gone but mother going strong at 92. Her remedy for teething was rubbing whisky on the gums. I am one of four and they do experiment on their own from my experience.

    Maddy was not abducted imo what is yours? Short as possible please……..

  47. 147
    G1 Says:

    Hi Chris, good to read your thoughts and experiences. I’ll get back to you. It’s hard. I’m not very comfortable with that part. Of course, theory is only theory and no amount of threats or strange actions can make theory mean anything else – ever – but we may have to watch what we “say”.

    I have written this elsewhere in this site, not sure where just now. But I’ll repeat it in a while when I get a bit of time. I just need to think a bit also, about why I think this and if it doesn’t just annoy me. It should annoy me, it is annoying me, it’s just that I have to accept that. I don’t want a miserable life!!!! Booo.

    I need to think a bit about particular possibilities. In the meantime, if you’ve any thoughts or theories, I and others would like to hear them.

    Yes, not an accident absolutely means something worse – no question, no even remote alternative possibility. The awful question, which may always remain unanswerable, is “just how much worse”? Balanced with the question “Is this getting carried away into what, even though possible in a heinous, secret world, is just pointless and not really advancing one’s credibility or thinking to talk about?”


  48. 148
    G1 Says:

    I need to kind of explain the last part …

    ” … is just pointless and not really advancing one’s credibility or THINKING to talk about? ”

    By not advancing one’s thinking – I certainly do not mean that I would be being random, lazy or easily suggestive in a theory or theories I would consider to be likely or very likely to be attributable to this sorry affair. Not at all.

  49. 149
    Chris Says:

    The ‘whisky on the gums’ to solve the teething issue is quite smart. The gums are numbed and the alcohol sends you to sleep.

    I remember coming home one night having raced down the South Downs from Chantenbury Ring on my bike with a best mate. On the way down (in the lead) I hit a tractor rut. Off I came into a barbed wire fence. I split my head open and best mate got me home – fortunately it was a very cold night. Father said ‘hows the bike’ and mum poored a very large glass of brandy. I said what’s that for? She said for me, I can see your skull.

    Dad took me to Worthing A @ E and I was stitched up. Had it been less an injury he would have done it even though you are not supposed to treat you own.

    Point I am making is the McCanns are no different to any others with access to medicine.

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    G1 Says:

    … And that means, Chris, they wouldn’t endanger their children with medication accidentally, or without due care, if being genuine. What you experienced was good sense caring, old style. Another thing that’s relevant is that times have changed since then. We are not only in a PC world where professionals have to watch everything they say and how they say it, it’s a world of suits and actions if someone trips or gets the wrong advice, just for a start. The TV is telling you to make a claim whatever might have happened or happen to you.

    Medical professionals have to be very cautious nowadays. Yes, they can ease up with their own children, as any parent can. Though caution, awareness & double checking what they’re not so familiar with is ingrained into them in caring for people, one after the other, who they don’t know from Adam. So, they’re not going to be at all unattentive with the paracetomol for example, with their own kids.

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